Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby captnmartin » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:15 pm

I need to get off my Duff and transcribe my Wendigo fighter notes into another write-up.

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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby NickHNASB » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:47 pm

As the good Captn, is sadly unavailable to give his advice I'm going to mash up a Loup Garou based on the Henschel P 75.
depending on how it looks I might make it a 2-seater,

EDIT:
Wingspan: 45' 7" = 13.89 m
Length: 30' 2" = 9.19 m

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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby Thom » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:36 pm

I look forward to seeing this!
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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby NickHNASB » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:04 pm

http://shpws.me/LFrf
This is the austere version with several modifications to reduce cost and improve reliability:
    Unreliable close-coupled (Bloodhawk style) engines replaced by large capacity V6s.
    Heavy contra-rotating propellors replaced with conventional ones.
    Guns moved from above the nose to underneath it to avoid blinding the pilot at night.
    Disappearing rear gun replaced by a hand operated mount.

A question, should the aircraft have a single rear fin like the Bloodhawk & Henschel P75 or one under each of the two outer engine nacelles like the Firebrand & Kyushu Shunden?

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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby Thom » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:15 am

I think it would look better with two smaller tails, but that's just my opinion.

One of the things that has always bugged me about CS aircraft (Or most aircraft for that matter) is the issue of visibility, Why not a glass bubble floor under the pilot or even placing the cockpit in the nose with a fuller field of view?
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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby NickHNASB » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:30 am

I've given it two smaller tail fins and a front fin which I think makes it look slightly more 1930s than 1940s.
The twin tail fins are definitely an improvement but I'm not so sure about the nose one.

The tricycle fin arrangement is also in keeping with an *austere* redesign as they allow for the undercarriage to be semi retractable (I've modelled wheels at the base of each fin) to reduce complexity and possible damage in the case of an emergency undercarriage-up landing.

Visibility WAS a constant problem with aircraft design. A manoeuvrable aircraft needs to have the crew near the centre of mass to reduce g-forces and motion sickness. The Me 109 cockpit was fully armoured in response to heavy pilot losses in the Spanish Civil War, as a result it had much worse visibility than the Spitfire.

I think the Loup Garou looks right (at least it's topsides) and wouldn't want to mess with the position and configuration of the cockpit, possibly it could go back a bit but then the visibility would be even worse.
I have included a viewport on the underside for the bombardier.

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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby NickHNASB » Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:31 am

On further reflection I've removed the front fin, it just looked wrong.
It should still be able to make an emergency wheels-up landing without too much damage.

Because the fuselage of this aircraft is very flat it's not worth making it hollow so I've taken the opportunity to model the nose guns more realistically with slots rather than long barrels.

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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby Thom » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:54 pm

Sounds interesting, can't wait to see it!
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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby Cyagen » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:44 pm

Nice looking plane....but I still refuse to consider it Québec canon! :mrgreen:
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Re: Bombardier CB-7 Loup Garou (Werewolf)

Postby NickHNASB » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:51 pm

How about *designed in Quebec*, possibly for Hughes who then rents the Bombardier name as a cover?

A bit like how Cosina rent the Voigtlander name from Leica.
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