Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Made a plane? Bought one? Got a real oddball? Well let's see it.
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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Cyagen » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:25 pm

Cyagen's Bomber entry


Amiot 160 "Martel"


“Slow like a zep, nibble like a rock and ugly like my mother in law, this plane has no redeeming quality.”
- Attributed to Maj. Gerard Ouellet, 1st Québec Bomber Squadron


With the first acquisition by the Luftwaffe of a Festung bomber from their ally the ISA the French ministry of Defense realized that current French bomber fleet was desperately in need of modernization. The firm Amiot was given the task of building a plane that could be based anywhere in France and strike any target inside Germany. After 2 years of development, the first plant rolled off the lines at the end of 1932.

Design history
The Amiot 160 is at the limit of the light bomber range. With a loaded weight of almost 60 000 pounds it seems too big for its two engines. It was originally planned to have four engines but the weight and size of the powerful Hispano-Suiza engines resulted in excessive wear and tear in the wings. The designers at Amiot though that they have the problem under control and that the performance of the plane justified the extra maintenance, but they had to go back to the drawing board when one of the prototype crashed after one of its wings ripped off in flight. Pressed for time, Amiot used the simplest solution of dropping two of the engines. That solve the wear and tear issue but at a heavy cost for the performances of the plane. Ther the engineers had to add armor and better armament to help the survivability of the plane, but the extra weight only compounded the performance problems. The front turret, that was added after the design was switched to two engines, hangs from the nose like a double chin, creating a lot more drag than should be acceptable. In any other circumstances, a normal company would have scrapped the design, but under pressure from the French government, the plane started production in what seems to be more a psychological war move then a rational defense decision. Immediately, units were send to Spain to help the Republican. The press named the bomber “Martel” drawing parallel between their mission to stop fascism to the French king that stopped the Muslims in the middle ages.

Roll and deployment
The Spain deployment did not ended well for the Martel. Although he could deliver an impressive amount of bombs from a long distance its lack of speed made it a sitting duck. The French Air Force wanted to use it without escort but despite decent armor and relatively powerful turrets guns the fact remained that it could just not get away from opposing fighters or takes any target by surprise. Faced with such bad results, any normal government would have stopped production, but to avoid the embarrassment of scrapping such a public project, production continued. Since no one wanted to fly these bombers, the planes just accumulated dusts in the yards of the Amiot company. Some were shipped to Louisiana, some to the Chinese communists to be used as transport planes. When the North East War started the French government sent 10 planes to Québec. They did not see significant action until the end of the war when they were send to bomb Charlottetown naval base in February 1935. The raid was a success, the port was put out of commission and 2 frigates sunk, but at a heavy price. Less than half of the bomber came back home. The lost planes where replaced, but the first bad impression they made forced the ROQ to look for other alternatives.

“Although still in service in the AAQ today, the Quebecers still use them because they have no other alternatives. If given the choice they would do like the French and scrap these flying coffins.” –L

BTN 1 (-3) 50 000 Lbs
SP 1 6500 lbs
G 2 14000 lbs
AC 1 9000 lbs
Front turret 2 x 40 1150 lbs
Aft turret 2x50 1600 lbs
Armor 600 6000 lbs
Nose 70
Port Bow 70
Port Leading 70
Port Trailing 50
Port Stern 50
Starboard Bow 70
Starboard Leading 70
Starboard Trailing 50
Starboard Stern 50
Tail 50

Bomb capacity: 11 750 lbs

Special caracteristics
Superior Range (+400)
Inferior Engines
Confined Conditions

Cost: $ 28072

In service: Quebec, Louisiana, Communist China
Malphas, over and out

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Patrick » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:59 pm

Just a few days left to get in your zeppelin and/or bomber design!

Let's see those designs.

Also one more thing: I was thinking about implementing a rule that you have to vote (and not for your own design) to be considered eligible to win, but I've decided against it, just in case people who entered are not around or do not check this board often enough to miss this post.

That said, I implore everyone to start voting on 9/1 and we will run it through 9/14, so two weeks. After that, I will announce the winners and send out the swag.

How many designs and how many votes come in will affect whether or not I do more contests (I have a lot of extra CS stuff laying around.)

So design! Vote! And win if you can! :)

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Jerba » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:26 pm

Thanks for the reminder, Patrick. I am just getting back from vacation and having family in town. I'll try to get something together. I hope the participation is what you hoped it would be. You have done us a great service with Z&B!

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Patrick » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:52 pm

If I didn't already mention it, all votes should be emailed to me at novelhawk -- at -- and then my first and last name dot com. If you don't know what it is after that, send me a PM and I'll send it to you that way. :)

By the way I will be out of pocket for awhile right around the contest time. My fantasy novel releases on 9/7. I will make a thread about it in the "misc" forum for more information. If you are a fan of my work and/or fantasy novels, I hope you consider it. :mrgreen:

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Patrick » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:47 pm

Today is the deadline! If you can get your designs in today, you are eligible to win unused CS source books and miniatures! Surely the skies over the shattered states and the rest of the world contains more zeppelins, bombers, and cargo planes ....

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Jerba » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:34 pm

Passenger Zeppelin Kirtland

The dissolution of the United States and the collapse of its infrastructure were devastating to the movement of goods and people across America. Though violence became more commonplace, trade and travel was still an imperative of the continent’s businesses and families. Utah’s response to this was to launch the Deseret Air Company (DAC). DAC gained traction all over the West as its routes expanded and its service’s reputation flourished. The massive, gorgeous passenger zeppelin Kirtland is the pinnacle of grandeur in the West. Some rumors exist that it was constructed of reinforced materials and can be converted to a military zepp in a short time if necessary, but these rumors are totally unsubstantiated.

Built to compete with Hollywood’s glitz and pomp, the Kirtland has surpassed any other air ship in the West. Its inaugural flight from Salt Lake City to San Francisco demonstrated the premium that DAC places on security. Carrying currency, trade goods, and a healthy number of wealthy passengers it was too tempting a target to resist. Entering a fog bank the Kirtland was immediately grappled by two small pirate zeppelins. With one enemy zepp on each side, the security teams acted without hesitation. The teams knocked out all the pirate boarders that made it to the Kirtland’s right side and proceeded to climb up one of the lines to the pirate zeppelin. With the clouds covering up their climb the team of 10 security guards led by Sergeant Nephi Hadley reached the pirate gondola with surprise on their side and secured the enemy zeppelin with only minor injuries sustained. Sergeant Hadley then maneuvered the captured pirate zepp over the Kirtland and trained its guns on the other pirate zepp. The enemy had no idea what had happened and was last seen disengaging the Kirtland and desperately fighting a massive fire. The captured pirates were astonished with the professionalism of the security aboard the Kirtland and remarked that as they were dragged through the ship that not a single passenger seemed to have gotten the least bit nervous during the attack. Further evidence of the passengers’ confidence was brought to light when several passengers remarked that they hadn’t known about the pirates until they read about it in the San Francisco newspapers.

With its blue, white, and yellow skin the Kirtland is a beautiful sight as it lights up the night sky when it transports the people of the shattered states through the dangerous skies. The comfort and safety with which the trip takes place is not lost on the passengers who enjoy the sparkling flight of the safest maiden in the sky.

Zeppelin Name: Lehi AeroCorp/Davis Aviation Heber-Class Heavy Passenger Zeppelin Kirtland (Heavily Modified Zeppelin originally bought from Texas)
Operated by: Deseret Air Company
Nation: Utah

Length: 1,500 ft.
Construction Time: 2.6 Years (Started in 1934, Launched 1937)
Construction Cost: $5,570,000

Engines: 16
Gondola: Keel Length Gondola and Bridge
Hanger: Double Hanger


Zeppelin Special Characteristics:
Passenger Luxury
Dual Hanger
Elite Security

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Grant » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:44 pm

Holy wow dudes...seriously?

It seems like whenever I leave, everything just tapers off....

Oh well, it proves y'all love me :lol:

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Patrick » Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:12 pm

I have decided to extend the voting an additional week. Please vote if you haven't yet.

Thanks everyone.

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Patrick » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:11 pm

Alright. Everyone has until the end of tomorrow, Sunday 9/16 to email me with your votes. There seem to be enough votes to call it, but if it is a tie for either category I will be the tie breaker.

Also, soon I'm going to be releasing the blueprint outlines of all my designs that are found in the book, in case anyone wants to build their own paint schemes and/or see the designs without the liveries obscuring the details.

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Re: Patrick's Zeppelin And Bomber Contest!!

Postby Patrick » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:05 am

The votes have been cast, the ballot boxes are closed, and the results are in! Here are the winners of the first contest. If you didn't win this time, there will be more contests in the future (I have a lot of FASA SWAG I can give away for this kind of stuff).

The winning zeppelin design was feggula's Robuck Class zeppelin!

The winning bomber design was Phoenix's Bastion Bomber!

Congratulations to both winners and to everyone who took part and who voted. I saw a some great designs and enjoyed this process.

Feggula wins an unused copy of Behind the Crimson Veil and an unopened Crimson Skies miniature of my choice.

Phoenix wins an unopened copy of Wings Over Manhattan (complete with the maps) and an unopened Crimson skies miniature of my choice.

Feggula & Phoenix - send me a PM or email with your names and addresses and I will send out your winnings as soon as I can.

Stay tuned everyone. More contests in the future.

And thank you for supporting Crimson Skies and Zeppelins & Bombers.

Best,
Patrick


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